Lan Uploading His Mind and Soul Intoba Netnavi
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- Then...Hub died equally an babe, right? Merely then MegaMan.EXE was made shortly afterwards? Is MegaMan.EXE'due south personality based off of Hub'southward (essentially what or who he could take been), or did Lan's dad become the personality information else where?
- I think it's hinted in game that MegaMan.EXE Grew with Lan, but because he was in the cyberworld then he would be exposed to more information than stimuli, making him the more than proper one while Lan is the more reckless one.
- Perhaps its more than similar Hub was subject to Brain Uploading right before decease (and then the official story was that "Hub died"), but Navis are Born as an Adult, so information technology took some time to adjust.
- Question: Alpha is a prototype of the internet, correct? Then why does it accept a course/trunk? Wouldn't it exist like the current net, and be...you know...a place?
- Probably has something to exercise with the way its been restricted, sealed upwards, and maybe tinkered with over the decades betwixt its attacks.
- Alternatively, its a feature of the framework of the New Internet that stuff like Alpha appear as bodied individuals, to make deletion past netnavis much more possible.
- Alternatively alternatively, information technology doesn't really, and it appearing to have a kaiju course is part of the same illusion of "the net is just like the real world" farce that makes PETs perceive viruses as animals and A.I.s as robots- to brand things more than comprehensible to the layman navi-operator.
- Alternatively cubed, the Alpha you actually fight is the cadre plan of the old internet and the remaining "Cyberspace" part is merely an extension of itself.
- I thought Alpha was the consciousness of the sometime net, kinda like D-reaper. Actually exactly like the D-reaper, it was the presence that regulated the expansion and growth of the old frame piece of work.
- Well, it'south almost likely a difference in systems. It probably would non have mattered what one you used from a computer, because if alpha is goo like in the regular net and so it probably means that they streamlined the current net, making information technology faster and thus alpha appears like goo in comparison considering information technology's slower than the regular net. When information technology is an actual identify, and not diving it's self upwardly for the larger net, then it is a place, merely because information technology'southward in a identify both larger, faster, and more diverse so it appears every bit a large, utilitarian pile of goo.
- Really, isn't that whole computer y'all fight information technology in Blastoff?...you know, the one the size of a freaking room...and the floor is all ruby-red goo textured, so I think the body shape you shoot at is Alpha just rising up part of itsself out of the floor soas to hit you ameliorate...(Why he doesnt just pop out of the floor like in the tanks and eat you is beyond me though...)
- The reason he doesn't just do the same affair as he did in the tank is elementary: He does. note The area where you fight him has random encounters with stronger versions of the ???? virus from the tank.
- How is information technology that during the two year bridge in which the Battle Network serial takes place, that Mr. Match has been arrested and let out of jail 3 times (Twice for being in the WWW, and once for an attempted terrorist set on), yet we find out in Boxing Network 6 that Count Zap is withal serving his scentence for existence a World wide web fellow member?
- 3? I'one thousand guessing the 3rd is Transmission. Well given that half-dozen shows repeated zapping is a possible punisment in universe for crime, and Zap is (obviously) electricly themed, prehaps he is Too Kinky to Torture and has to serve his sentence the difficult way? Meta wise, it is because Match is the iconic first boss and has Joker Immunity, Zap is a random baddy.
- Peradventure if shocking is a punishment Zap possibly has a electroshock fetish, and thus they couldn't exercise this with him...simply then again...its also possible Match has a burning fetish...wait, they wouldn't exercise it THAT intensely if its not an outright electrocution death sentence...
- Match might've been doing something for the customs at the Airdrome in Battle Network 2, equally stated in 5, they hired Fyrefox/Dingo to netbattle, it may have been something similar. And in 3, he was helping SciLab.
- Agreed near Zap, he gets far more than dear in the anime. Frankly, I think Match'southward just in a constant land of parole.
- I think what he did was:
- BN 1) Obvious
- BN 3) Set Scilab on fire after tricking Lan into helping.
- BN 4) Trying to blow up Den Dome, merely having a change of heart.(Red Sunday)
- The concluding one might be wrong, though.
- Lucifer's specialty, judging by his infiltration in the first game and his assault on Sci Lab in the third, appears to exist social engineering. He might have arranged something.
- 3? I'one thousand guessing the 3rd is Transmission. Well given that half-dozen shows repeated zapping is a possible punisment in universe for crime, and Zap is (obviously) electricly themed, prehaps he is Too Kinky to Torture and has to serve his sentence the difficult way? Meta wise, it is because Match is the iconic first boss and has Joker Immunity, Zap is a random baddy.
- What Happened to the storyline after BN3? It's similar they just forgot that at that place was an over arching plotline the second they started BN4.
- Ugh, agreed! There was all that stuff with Serenade and Bass and character origins and backstory, and and so iv starts and...nothing. Poof. Serenade'south gone, Bass is relegated to Bonus Dominate condition, the Undernet is a Wretched Hive instead of a safeguard for the concluding best hope of the network again, and that exceedingly interesting comment Bass made when he caught the Giga Freeze ("So you're a Chosen Ane also?" is never expounded upon. I like the final three games okay, but I wish they'd incorporated the overall storyline into them.
- Anybody in the Bonus Dungeon in ii makes that "Chosen One" comment too. And then it was definitely not something that was just thrown in without much thought during iii.
- On that note, the first three games had more plausible scenarios and were much darker (as in the characters were willing to talk about the concept of death, as there'south practically no mention of information technology during the last three games). I believe that the series was originally meant to exist a trilogy with the last three games being thrown together after Capcom realized how assisting the series had become. If I remember correctly, Gregar/Falzar's groundwork in 6 pretty much conflicted with Alpha's background in 3 as well.
- Possibly after they sealed Alpha, the new net was likewise quite buggy...only not so much it became sentient and tried to kill everyone...instead all the bugs sort of clustered and then the BUGS tried to kill everyone...actually, bugs are errors though, I doubt they would make an effective fighting strength anyway...
- Either that, or the story writers left the development squad later on the third game and/or the series was meant to be split upward into two trilogies - the first detailing the Globe Three's pass up of influence/power and explanation of the existence of the Internet/Undernet, and the second being about what the rest of Wily'southward family unit was doing with the terminal confrontation between Wily and the Hikaris in half-dozen.
- Confirmed: "They were all a delight to work on, but personally I enjoyed 3 the most. In terms of the game'south scenario, we were originally planning this game to be the terminal installment in the series. Once nosotros finished 3, I call up thinking "That'due south all she wrote, this series is over," but then it wasn't long at all before the prospect of "Battle Network 4" arose. I remember actually racking my encephalon trying to figure out how we would continue with the story from there."
- I don't get what they were thinking with BN six'due south plot: information technology was the finish of the serial, simply nothing of importance happened in it. And so the catastrophe seemed like the writers had just learned that there weren't going to be any more of these games and made sure anybody knew it by declaring that this item threat was the large one for all time every few minutes. It wasn't even a double dominate (despite the huge potential they had for one), merely i fauna weaker than annihilation other than the Lifevirus. I'chiliad not even getting into how lame all the new characters were. I become that they wanted to appeal to younger gamers here, just this was a pathetic way to end things.
- Everything later the third game was a Post-Script Flavour written by the seat of its pants. It's basically the same problem that plagued the X series afterward 5. That said, the sixth did have a few appreciated nods to the residual of the earliest part of the series, mostly in its Expy choices (Gregar for Gospel, BlastMan for FireMan, Yuika for Ms. Madd) and the litany of NPCs during the epilogue. Still, loads of wasted potential to tie everything upwards.
- They probably didn't know it would be the final game until midway during development. They kept it going past the planned cease because it sold so well then they'd probable keep it running indefinately then long as it sold adept, but sales went downward after iv so subsequently 5 and 5DS didn't sell so smashing they told the people working on a one-half completed half-dozen to finish information technology in that location and so they could effort something new with Star Force. No doubt the two beasts were just supposed to be your boilerplate gimmick of the game initially and only had to be the super powerful ultimate final boss when it was also tardily to alter it.
- Ugh, agreed! There was all that stuff with Serenade and Bass and character origins and backstory, and and so iv starts and...nothing. Poof. Serenade'south gone, Bass is relegated to Bonus Dominate condition, the Undernet is a Wretched Hive instead of a safeguard for the concluding best hope of the network again, and that exceedingly interesting comment Bass made when he caught the Giga Freeze ("So you're a Chosen Ane also?" is never expounded upon. I like the final three games okay, but I wish they'd incorporated the overall storyline into them.
- I don't get Regal's programme in the quaternary game. He wants to create a new world of pure evil, which is dizzy, just I'll accept information technology. But how is the asteroid involved? His program seems to be something similar this:
- 1. Sabotage laser plan.
- 2. Propose Navi plan.
- 3. Delete MegaMan.EXE.
- four. Gain control of asteroid.
- v. ???
- 6. Profit!
- Regal didn't really have a developed plan until the last tertiary of the game. All Lan and MegaMan.EXE did were bump into a few of his agents, not the system at large. That's why they had to use so many pointless tournaments as substitute for an actual plot. As for what he wanted to exercise with Duo; got me.
- Duo (and the asteroid) were unaccounted-for elements, I do believe.
- Actually, it'southward a bit sparsely fleshed out, merely it seems to go something like this: In BN4, Imperial was already convinced Humans Are Bastards and Nebula was already entering mainstream by the time the game rolled effectually, and even though he was probably planning to enact the BN5 Soulnet plot, the big rock about to striking the planet showed up, and since he was convinced humanity sucked, he wanted to make certain the big stone hitting the planet. He failed, and then by BN5 he activated his fill-in plan (technically his first programme until the asteroid showed up). Equally for the Nighttime Chips, he wanted to prove Humans Are Bastards in both BN4 and BN5, and what ameliorate fashion to do information technology than past corrupting the Net, which the whole world is pretty much literally connected to. In short, the sparse plot tin be justified (on Regal's ambition'south end at least) past the fact proving Humans Are Bastards was his baseline motivation for both games, on BN4 had him try Kill 'Em All via Colony Drop due to his disgust, and BN5 had him instead try to enact massive More Heed Command to acheive the aforementioned result.
- according to another wiki: "Purple's plan was to alert the programme Duo of the evil that existed on earth and so stop the plan with his Navi, LaserMan, to look like a hero." presumably after that the earth would admit him and follow his every whim... merely we see how well that went for Lan and he wasn't fifty-fifty PLANNING on saving the world
- Regal didn't really need a plan at the moment. LaserMan had the self-sufficiency to run Nebula by himself while Purple was decorated helping to save the world. In that location was no real "program" until Majestic realized (after the early on tournaments) that the meteor was a behemothic reckoner organization (it's unclear if he and LaserMan were even enlightened of Duo in the offset place). LaserMan and ShadeMan, meanwhile, are busy trying to deal with the MegaMan problem (more than specifically, his newborn Nighttime Soul). Information technology would've been nice if the game went into more depth about the second part.
- You would remember there would be some mention of porn in the Battle Network series, at the very least a Navi/Programme that subtextually alludes to having some.
- Given the amount of nannying Rockman can do, whatsoever porn nonetheless on the Net is probable to exist very well hidden.
- And its possible Lan isn't going on those kinds of sites... look, porn often has viruses... perhaps they go on unintentionally deleting it all? and I do like the concept of him actively removing any he finds...
- That would certainly explain all those MMBN hentai doujins I keep on occasionally seeing, online...
- I'k pretty certain Rule 34 exists in the Battle Network continuity, but simply the guys at World Three take advantage of it.
- I'm sure that with the heavy presence of Spider web-Political party Vans, none of the perverts desire to get caught out for distributing dominion 34 across the chief public sector of the Internet. THAT is what the Undernet is for.
- Suddenly, Dr. Regal's SoulNet program at the end of Battle Network 5 sounds a lot more than diabolical. Limitless Ability Perversion Potential in a system that can use the Internet to inspire and reinforce emotions in people, especially lust...
- Simply animalism? Dude, you lot retrieve Mode as well small. Do you lot not recollect Regal'southward testing phase? Happy, well-adjusted people were suffering from suicidal depression, upstanding citizens were suddenly attacking each other, your own teammates tried to MURDER y'all, and that was BEFORE Purple got around to installing Nebula Grey.
- Dex has a few adult magazines in his closet in the first game.
- Given the amount of nannying Rockman can do, whatsoever porn nonetheless on the Net is probable to exist very well hidden.
- I'm willing to ignore a lot of the lack of physical forcefulness in the Battle Network series. I'yard willing to accept that the adult bad guys don't just punch out the 5/6th grader's lights when they meet face to confront, that a demonstration of Chaud'southward mortality involves killing Proto Man in battle rather than shooting Chaud, I'chiliad willing to take that everything'southward online. Merely the tanks in the third game are just also much. I mean, kickoff of all, why tanks? When dealing with the treat of super-hackers, why bring in tanks, tanks which can exist controlled remotely through the net no less, to protect noncombatant areas? Protect them against what? Other berserk tanks? And second, even more than importantly, how could five tanks neglect to shoot a fifth grade boy indicate blank? The first was especially ridiculous, as information technology riddled the basis at his feet with bullets twice before he ran up to it, plugged in his pet, and presumably stood right next to it helping Mega Man until information technology was deactivated. The others were at least "distracted" by another character, only fifty-fifty if the first ii volleys were preprogrammed to be alarm shots why the hell did it not brand mincemeat out of Lan? As a side note, why was Dex (not Guts Man, Dex) able to hurl a bedrock at Bubble Man's robot?
- Proceed in mind that Dr. Wiley was the i who designed those tanks. In Mega Human being (Classic), most of Wiley'south mooks are actually, really easy to take down, and these particular tanks were made correct before Dr. Light decided to focus on Cyberspace Technolegy rather than Robots, and so Dr. Wiley didn't actually accept time to make any of the really deadly stuff. As for Dex and the boulder, that could be justified by sheer willpower on Dex's part, and Bubble Man being stupid enough to allow that happen to him. But yeah, missing Lan at bespeak blank range? Cuts off the pause of disbelief.
- Perhaps he but botched the programming for their aim...?
- The tank had been hacked by a level two AlphaBug, which gives the audience a gustatory modality of Alpha's power, but in that location's no real indication of how the bug interfaces with the software of the tank or if whatsoever glitches arise, just there's enough wiggle room to suppose that they do.
- Proceed in mind that Dr. Wiley was the i who designed those tanks. In Mega Human being (Classic), most of Wiley'south mooks are actually, really easy to take down, and these particular tanks were made correct before Dr. Light decided to focus on Cyberspace Technolegy rather than Robots, and so Dr. Wiley didn't actually accept time to make any of the really deadly stuff. As for Dex and the boulder, that could be justified by sheer willpower on Dex's part, and Bubble Man being stupid enough to allow that happen to him. But yeah, missing Lan at bespeak blank range? Cuts off the pause of disbelief.
- There is something that is more than jarring in 3 than a child dodging automobile gun bullets. It'south the plot itself. Evil organization out to unleash some cyber Eldritch Abomination that devastated the net years before. It got sealed away and the keys to break the seal were hidden throughout the world. Standard stuff.... Hither's a question. This is a relatively avant-garde society. Why would they hibernate the keys to a monster that could accident the earth to hell in a school figurer, a zoo, and a hospital?
- Well would you look there? As well, in BN one the Burn Program was inside Lan's oven. That'south even worse.
- Dr. Hikari hides a McGuffin in a deceptively unproblematic location in his own dwelling? How is that "worse"?
- Also, we never really meet the facilities used to hide the TetraCodes themselves. It's possible there's armed forces-grade security behind that 1 door in the school you can't open, that one building in the zoo with no windows, and one of the floors in the infirmary yous don't ever see.
- The adults in this universe have proven themselves (on numerous occasions, I might add) to be consummate idiots.
- Of course they seem odd. Their seeming unfittingness really a point in their favor, since most people pass by them, unconcerned. The problem arises in that Wily happens to know exactly where to look (and that's still entirely justifiable, given how intimate Wily is related with the history of the game'due south world). For example, if Wily knew that Dr. Hikari has hidden the Fire program somewhere in his house, it would exist more fitting than the plan he and Match build around the fact that it'south subconscious in the oven.
- It would have been squeamish, of course, to have these choices explained, however.
- Actually, when yous think near information technology, it tin can't be explained as it is illogical to hibernate something so of import in a place so like shooting fish in a barrel to admission, just when you recall about it, that's exactly information technology, if y'all were to hide something that can destroy the world, the final place people would think to look for is mayhap the most obvious, easyly-attainable identify
- Well would you look there? As well, in BN one the Burn Program was inside Lan's oven. That'south even worse.
- Battle Network question: Lan takes a couple hundred m rads of EM radiations during the last battle in BN2. How does he manage to have a son with Mayl following BN6?
- He was wearing a radiation suit the whole time. More than chiefly, how did the child in accuse of Gospel non get irradiated to death?
- Just Lan's adjust was rated for 50k rads (Yai's custom-ordered radvests could but take 30k). Sean, on the other hand, was pretty much operating in The Last Trip the light fantastic toe mode, and couldn't have cared less about his survival (probably had 100k rads of protection to his name anyhow). Following BN2, Sean would be treated at the Beach Street Infirmary, where some of the excess radiation lodged a BugFrag in one of Mamoru's arteries.
- Battle Network ii fails radiations forever. All it does is make people walk funny, if the NPCs are whatever guide. So Lan should exist fine. Likewise, had he even hit puberty yet?
- Truth exist told, radiation induced sterility is temporary, and there are no records of heritable mutations being created by such exposure. However, 50,000 rads over the suit'due south shielding rating should be fatal. And by fatal, I hateful rapid onset Fundamental Nervous Syndrome: disoriented in minutes, comatose inside the hour and dead in a mean solar day.
- Depends on the kind of radiation. It was plain the detrimental sort, but information technology'southward true nature is not revealed, then it may not have been the type that renders i sterile.
- Information technology was the kind of radiation that makes computers grow from the floor. Me? I pin it on the Bug Frags.
- Information technology was also the kind of radiation that starts ripping holes betwixt the real and cyber worlds' architectures.
- He was wearing a radiation suit the whole time. More than chiefly, how did the child in accuse of Gospel non get irradiated to death?
- Why are in that location so many viruses on the Net? Seriously, if you're jacked-in, you're field of study to Random Encounters, even if you're in your own home PC, the major "city" PCs, or the kitchen PC. Is there no decent virus-protection or firewall software 20 Minutes into the Hereafter? (I have only played the DS version of v, but assumes that it'south the same in other games of the series...)
- On that note, all those viruses? MegaMan.EXE? Hub.BAT? It sounds like Tadashi's Cyberspace runs solely on Windows.
- They accept a very, very, very good antivirus system. They call it "netnavis", and its working every time yous fight a random encounter. YOU, the player, are the antivirus system, or at least the most successful part of it.
- In the 2d game, early on on, ane of the appliances in your firm says that "Your mom already ran a virus scan on it" if y'all attempt to jack in too soon... (which is actually only to keep you from inbound the expanse earlier they want you to... but, at to the lowest degree information technology makes some sense)
- If the NetNavis are intended to be the antivirus, they're definitely not a very, very, very good antivirus system. Today, your antivirus - to select one at random, AVG - easily repairs or quarantines any infected files en masse, and the chances of said AVG beingness deleted or otherwise disabled by a virus is practically nix. However, NetNavis must "fight" viruses, one-to-iii at a time, and can easily be removed by said viruses. Why didn't we go along AVG when we traveled forwards those twenty minutes, particularly when nosotros've decided that Everything Is Online?
- Tadashi was a genius programmer. Nobody ever said he was sane. Run across besides, Awesome, but Impractical.
- Await. Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. Then, in the past the Cyberspace was relatively devoid of viruses, and stuff worked. Then Tadashi, who is insane, created a new Cyberspace protocol based around stupidly high levels of virus activity, thus requiring all users of the Cyberspace to have their own, painfully ineffective, antivirus programs called NetNavis. Everyone on the entire planet immediately agreed to supercede the previously functioning networking systems with a unmarried, adequately rubbish protocol created past an insane computer scientist. Apparently information technology's not only Tadashi that's insane.
- No, Tadashi didn't intend for the viruses, his thought was for the Netnavis to exist used as antivirus programs (they haven't done as proficient a job as intended). Also, if you'll recall, the sometime net had been more than or less destroyed by Blastoff, so he needed to recreate things from the ground upwards. People all agreed because it meant getting the internet back in some form.
- No, I do not recall, for I have only played the fifth game's DS version. The following objections are therefore but based on my assumptions. Destruction of the "old Cyberspace" we have in reality is pretty much impossible, anyway - you'd need to accept down every single server in existence, after all (or at least every DNS server, disabling everyone who doesn't memorise IP addresses or have a private DNS server). Even after doing this, information technology wouldn't be too difficult to put the same Internet protocols back up again one time the danger had passed - using a new concept, by an insane scientist is entirely unnecessary, and definitely would require more work than restoring the previously existing Internet. As another signal, if Tadashi intended for the NetNavis to function every bit antivirus apps, why didn't he actually test their antivirus abilities in a local-network setup of his new Internet concept? Presumably considering he'southward insane. This brings the states to the existent question: why practise the entire population of the planet take a flawed, dangerous protocol created by an insane man, when the existing protocols were far more effective and could hands exist reinstated?
- Considering, while netnavis are crap at dealing with small inconvenient viruses due to sheer numbers (which the computers seem be able to cope with, by and large), they are quite good at dealing with behemothic viral kaiju. Considering that Tadashi'southward internet was kicked off after the attack of Alpha, which was almost immediately followed past the Cybeasts, it makes sense that people would want to stick with netnavis- the only class of antivirus stiff enough to deal with such powerful singular threats, and which but work in Tadashi's arrangement. Its a tradeoff- stronger, but only able to target i or two viruses at a fourth dimension. The existing protocals didn't exactly piece of work, because as far equally I retrieve, the existing internet became sentient and started attacking people, calling itself Alpha. People tend to be kinda willing to endeavor new things after that.
- Hang on. The existing Cyberspace gained sentience, started killing everyone, and was disabled. Then, Tadashi proposed a new set of protocols which had sentience to begin with, and could start killing everyone without waiting to gain sentience first. Why did nobody consider how utterly insane doing this would be? Additionally, the existing Internet, if reactivated, probably would non instantly regain sentience, although this depends on how whatever Applied Phlebotinum created Alpha did so. Regarding the "big viruses", regular antivirus tin handle the vast majority of these. Rarely, a patch tin be downloaded from your AV app's website for the occasional harder-to-delete virus, which basically fulfills the role of the NetNavi, without all the risks of AI.
- Well, the Navis weren't designed to exist insane...they take preprogrammed personalities...and...I judge the antivirus software doesn't tend to work on the unabridged internet...
- The Cyberspace has, for all intents and purposes, become its own dimension. The sheer amount of data has get then ridiculously complex that humans can no longer comprehend enough of it to react to daily needs. Navis are ludicrously complex programs that react to this new environs as humans exercise the normal world. This allows them to show cyberspace deportment in a simple, comprehensible form to let the average person to interact with the network for daily life. Viruses, in the series, aren't as nosotros know them: I'thousand willing to bet that the boilerplate Mettaur has enough strength in it's pickaxe to permanently corrupt today'south CIA firewalls. What we, and the homo characters, see as virus busting is shorthand for a far more complicated programming procedure designed to make maintenance fun and piece of cake for the public.
- As for the AI research, Alpha came about by accident and was mortiferous because it was so stupid. The thing sprang up from the layering of global estimator processes with no intellect to speak of. It was basically a giant cyber-amoeba: all it knew how to do is randomly absorb data and energy into itself. The processes it followed were so random that it took years to discover that at that place even was a single source for the incidents. If they re-made the old network or even a new one, the incident would just repeat, every bit no human organization could monitor and update the entire Internet constantly without bankrupting itself. Tadashi and Wily spent years studying all aspects of human being intelligence and somewhen hit on a way to create an AI smart enough to monitor the constantly irresolute environment of the growing net and repair any faults that could lead to a second Blastoff spawinging. Navis are bonded to individual humans to ensure that neither side decides to revolt against the other.
- What I'd like to know is why, in the games AND the anime, SciLab gets striking by massive virus attacks roughly three times an episode. This is a group of scientists working on the forefront of network technology, even so their firewall is fabricated of absolute FAIL. A security flaw which, more than than once, has resulted in massive PHYSICAL damage to the facility.
- And now you see just how valuable Bass was for problem-shooting Sci-Lab's systems (okay, that doesn't explain the anime).
- They really shouldn't accept attacked him and collection him off...actually, he would be one hell of a security organisation himself for that matter...
- To be fair, the annual assaults on Sci Lab are unremarkably made by extremely powerful Navis supplied with weapons or minions specifically designed to get around all security. There's notwithstanding no alibi for why so many Concrete threats are able to waltz in, just Sci Lab's questionable open-door policy is an issue for another twenty-four hour period.
- Justified. Sci Lab is basically a civilian run regime organization that studies the Internet, and except in a few cases involving national security (see BN2, 3, AND 5), they throw open their doors because they are run by scientists who believe in an open exchange of ideas and accept aught to hibernate. True, it'southward naive, just is quite in tune with a scientific mindset, which tends to be liberal in regards to access of material and information.
- Still, you'd retrieve they'd accept a security staff or some of those robot tanks standing guard in one of the near of import research centers on Earth. Actually 2 guys with batons would be an comeback.
- And now you see just how valuable Bass was for problem-shooting Sci-Lab's systems (okay, that doesn't explain the anime).
- How did we miss this one: Lan and Hub have 100% the same Dna, being twins. And then how come Lan does not have Hub'south heart condition? It information technology was bacterial or viral in nature, it would have been treatable. Mamoru is able to survive it using advanced tech, which hints at a problem in the mechanics of the heart. And then why doesn't Lan take it, if information technology'due south congenital and he has Hub'south DNA?~
- What do you hateful it would be treatable if it were viral? We're talking early on nineties medicine here. Back then we didn't take treatments for influenza or even the common cold, let alone some mortiferous heart virus. The major threat of viruses comes from the fact that they don't respond well to medication- usually all you lot can practise is treat the symptoms and promise the patient's immune arrangement tin fend off the infection. That's why the focus has always been on vaccination- yous had to prevent the disease because at that place was no cure.
- I probably missed something - I assumed that like most other fatal alleles, information technology'due south dual-recessive, whereas Lan was heterozygous and thus has a Ff alignment (According to basic genetics) whereas Hub had ff.
- They tin can't have dissimilar genotypes if they're identical twins. However the illness may be something that isn't completely genetic. It may be that they both had the cistron, but it was but triggered in Hub for some reason. Perhaps there was in unequal distribution of nutrients while in that location were in the womb, or the evolution of one was affected by the other.
- Dad Hikari has HBD and is managing it despite apparently living on instant noodles and constant overwork. Who'south to say Lan, with his significantly more active lifestyle and well-balanced nutrition, isn't?
- In Boxing Network 6 Gregar, Cyber Academy has surveillance cameras in every classroom and dispatches armed security robots if someone walks in without ID. Yet their teaching staff includes a on and off again terrorist, an actual terrorist (albeit a reluctant one) and an assassin. Go figure.
- Well, all of them work equally teachers here, and thus, they might have their own ID carte. Mr. Match is already a good guy these days, nobody knows that Mach is a terrorist until the endgame, and Dark Scythe is probably a practiced enough assassin to convince everyone to give him the teacher's ID bill of fare. The side by side question volition exist what Night Scythe is supposed to be teaching, or who he's supposed to impale.
- The Principal himself is a villain. Problem solved.
- At the end of BN2 we accept some kind of fruitcake radiation that grows computers and starts mixing the real and cyber worlds of Kotobuki. Alright, I can suspend disbelief on that, information technology looks really absurd and eerie. What actually bugs me about it though, is that there was no Adventures Of Cookie And Foam-esque team up where MegaMan.EXE and Lan break that barrier and leap dorsum and forth between their worlds — MegaMan.EXE shooting down doors, Lan whacking Metools with a mop, etc. Just seems like the perfect opportunity for Fish out of Water is all.
- My guess? Nobody wanted to come up up with an explanation for how Lan would be able to fight endgame-class Viruses, considering he'south not exactly equipped to use your chips.
- Iris being a netnavi. Just... why? Aside from the fact that it seems like a lazy way to cut Iris out of the Mayl x Lan ten Iris love triangle, it honestly makes the scene where Baryl gets the crap beaten out of him to protect Iris totally nonsensical. Besides, how does she count every bit Colonel's sister? If anything, she'south his daughter.
- Iris and Colonel were created from the same data, which split into two separate Navis, each ane holding data vital to the other.
- So she IS Colonel? or at to the lowest degree half of him...
- Co-ordinate to Wily and Baryl, Colonel existed before Iris did; remember, he used to exist able to impale everything, control mechanism, and be kind. Moving bated from the sheer stupidity and subjectiveness of a kindness program, Wily explains that he created Iris from Colonel'southward weapon control and kindness data. Then aye, that would make Iris Colonel's daughter.
- Iris origins are meant to mirror her original: scientists tried to create the perfect fighting Reploid, half strong-willed fighter, half peaceful arbiter, only the two halves could not successfully be brought together, and so they remained separate, becoming brother and sis. Wily simply happens to be a amend scientist than the Repliforce tin can beget, then he could successfully combine the 2 halves. Y'all could compare him reversing the procedure to the evolution of identical twins from a single beingness (remember: Navis are digital, non analog, and then their personalities and identities can be more manipulable... but that's its own ball of wax).
- In other words, yous're trying to describe the relationship between digital beings using terms that only make sense in an analog context (remember, the original Mega Man and Roll are independent robots that are made brother and sis by the fiat of Dr. Light). The games treat her as Colonel's sister due to her position in the greater Mega Human mythos.
- Besides, the real trouble isn't what to phone call the relationship between Colonel and Iris, it'south that nobody seems to address Dr. Wily deliberately turning Colonel into a Starfish Character.
- Iris and Colonel were created from the same data, which split into two separate Navis, each ane holding data vital to the other.
- I can take Lan existence a natural with a very expert Navi and Chaud existence a skilled customizer who trains constantly. But that doesn't explain how they can exist the only competent Netbattlers in the whole world who are any good at it when there are people who have been doing information technology professionally for longer than those two have been alive.
- Maybe ProtoMan.EXE has a hacked customizer and thus more space for programs? Or maybe annihilation else, for all we know they know how to operate together instead of merely giving/getting instructions, which places them above over 99% players.
- It's mentioned in the second game that Chaud wrote Protoman.EXE himself, which probably places him far ahead of whatsoever commercially bachelor netnavi in terms of functioning.
- Er wait, if the dark fries reduce your hp permanantly by 1 every time you use one...how the hell practice the netnavis in the dark chip syndicate have so much hp?
- They stock up on HP Memories, of grade!
- You are given a Night License the second you join the organization. Use the Dark Chips all yous want; they won't hurt you in any manner.
- At the stop of the outset Battle Network Game, Hikari mentions that he had to change Hub's Deoxyribonucleic acid considering if information technology was 100% identical, that harm to the navi would damage Lan, besides. How does that piece of work, exactly?
- I think that it has to do with the Full Synchro condition effect. When Navi and Operator are acting completely in sync, they go linked in a way. If Navi and Operator also share DNA and mental country... I don't actually know that this is an adequate explanation, but quantum physics posits that if two particles have identical quantum states, they are, in consequence, the same particle. Maybe that applies here?
- According to the NT Warrior manga, this is exactly how Full Synchro works, and why it'southward such a difficult and dangerous technique to use.
- The globe of the game is written to treat the material and cyber worlds every bit subtly overlapping dimensions (the second game's climax proved that bugs and radiations do not mix). On top of that, MegaMan does non properly fit into the Cyberworld as a normal Navi (when he taps into his man DNA, he gets absurd boosts in power). Lan and Mega could essentially create an double-ended dimensional anchor that results in the harm Mega takes bleeding over to Lan.
- I think that it has to do with the Full Synchro condition effect. When Navi and Operator are acting completely in sync, they go linked in a way. If Navi and Operator also share DNA and mental country... I don't actually know that this is an adequate explanation, but quantum physics posits that if two particles have identical quantum states, they are, in consequence, the same particle. Maybe that applies here?
- And then I don't know if this was simply the early art, simply Lan is wearing rollerskates. It shows in his running animation because he is obviously roller-skating. Shouldn't he have gotten in trouble for wearing roller skates in schoolhouse and in home because he'll leave "trails" on the flooring? (Trust me, they don't just ataxia up the floor)
- In the anime, the wheels of his skates are either retractable into his shoes or fastened on separately (been a while since I've watched it, can't remember which ane exactly). That doesn't explain how he doesn't exit marks all over the place, just that's why he isn't in trouble for having them at schoolhouse.
- His skates are detachable.
- Why do so many battlechips accept Mega Man on them? Is that the default appearance of the fries or does it change depending on the navi? Speaking of which does Mega Man have a navi bit of his own?
- Mega Homo has his own navi fleck in Battle Fleck Challenge, but at that place the navi chips permit the thespian to switch between available playable characters instead of summoning navis.
- I haven't watched the anime, just as far as the game is concerned, I would say that either (i) the chip data takes on the portrait of the user, like MegaMan.EXE, or (ii) the portrait is but something similar a generic Normal Navi (which is the example in some chips) and we the player but run across it as MegaMan.EXE instead.
- Yeah, MegaMan.EXE has a battle scrap of his own. It's called "Hub Batch" and it is a giga-class fleck in the 6th game.
- Hey, think that Ultimate Navi Buster from BN two? Why did Dr. Hikari never work on perfecting it, given that it can kill 3 super strong ninja guards in 1 striking, imagine the lives it could accept saved by using an entire army equipped with them confronting Alpha, Duo, Nebula Grey or hell fifty-fifty the Cybeasts. Sure in that location's the whole "Can't permit information technology fall in evil hands argument", but when dealing with Eldritch Abominations capable of destroying the earth, I think a few baddies with it is the least of their concerns.
- So, what exactly does being an Operator entail? It tin't be merely slotting in fries. In the games, it's made clear some operators let their navis battle alone (Viddy Narcy) and that Lan is a superior operator (in 5, Baryl even tells him to operate Colonel because he'southward that good).
- It seems that he assumes control of the Navi'south body, which gives the Navi both the Battle Chips and the do good of a 3rd-person perspective to better react to combat situations.
- How exercise you get Battle Fries from viruses, mystery data and Higsby's service guild? They're bodily concrete chips. It's not like they tin magically materialize on top of whatever device y'all're currently jacked in to, right?
- Presumably you lot get the data for the fleck, and Lan always keeps a stack of blank chips with him to load the data onto.
- In 2, A woman needs a Fire Sword "F" to fix her water heater and a daughter in 3 asks for a Recover 30 * to cure her ill navi. Why are the chip codes of import in that attribute? Likewise, why exercise they need those specific chips? Couldn't any heat element chip or a Recover chip that'due south higher than 30 too do the trick?
- I'd assume that while information technology doesn't matter in battle, in that location is specific coding in that heater, for instance, that in order to repair, requires a Fire Sword F, rather than an L or Southward.
- Is Serenade supposed to be male or female? While AI programs like Net Navis plain don't accept biological genders, nearly of them seem to self-identify as male or female.
- For all we know, Serenade may well exist an alt-gendered Internet Navi.
- Shouldn't Lan be, well, dead already? In BN2, he gets blasted with radiation. Furthermore, in BN5, Team ProtoMan, while Nebula tests the microservers, Raika attacks him. No matter how good Lan is at Netbattling, in the real world he is merely a immature male child, while Raika is a trained soldier.
- Its a game for kids, mixed with a liberal dose of Plot Armor.
- One of the plan advances requires Step Sword, Hero Sword, and Step Cross, which results in Evil Cut. What?
- Try transliterating it to Japanese, it'south probably based on a sword technique that cuts evil, just like the spell Omnyous use which is "Akuryou Taisan" which transliterate to Evil-Spirit Dispel, which ways dispelling the E.Spirit, just like "Evil Cut" Is supposed to mean cut evil apart (Think of a kanji for evil appearing on the enemy, marking them as evil and Megaman slashes them)
- Why shadow viruses tin just be damaged by sword chips and sword chips alone?
- Because a shadow is dark,Dark Is Evil, heroes defeat evils, and swords are heroic
- In the airplane scenario in ii, what the hell was Gauss's actual plan? He said he was hijacking the plane, but he didn't brand whatsoever actual demands, and he already had the HighPower program he was at that place to steal. He was just trying to crash the plane! With him on it! Fifty-fifty worse, Gospel's leader was on the airplane besides! If Lan had failed, Gospel would have wound up assassinating their own leadership.
- Gauss was lying and the airplane hijacking was a pretense to distract from the actual theft of the HighPower programme. Nobody's going to be looking for a thief when the world is going to Hell around them.
- Why did Slur requite Yui and the love fortune teller Asteroid Navis? All the other Asteroid Navi operators were well enlightened of the harm they were causing and enjoyed it. The problems caused by the two ladies on the other manus were either entirely the Asteroid Navis fault or unintentional and unlike the other Asteroid Navis operators, they weren't bad people in the slightest.
- Supposedly she'd also give Asteroid Navi's to people she know wouldn't be able to control them. Though it is kind of jarring how Asteroid's would be loyal to the point of sacrifice to evil operators simply the ones that weren't evil would always take them turn on them.
- Battle Network three. Correct after the Hopeless Boss Fight against Bass, an unnamed, generic Navi shows upwardly. Said Navi then uses Dark Aureola and says that fifty-fifty if the whole cyberworld collapsed, he'd exist safe. The problem is that in gameplay Dark Aura vanishes if information technology is hit past an attack that does at least 300 damage. Then why doesn't the whole cyberworld collapse every fourth dimension Lan pulls out the Lifesword program advance or any other heavy-striking assail?
- It'south chosen "hype", yo.
- Why were the speed teammates not afflicted past Majestic'south microservers?
- Why is Woods Soul's charge shot a twister? I know its from the wood element style change from the second and third game, but WoodMan doesn't have that ability.
- The fourth game was the introduction of the Soul system, so information technology was still experimental. Instead of actually interim like any of the characters, MegaMan just dressed like them and used the aforementioned generic elemental attacks he did in his old Styles. It was a flake better with the non-elemental Souls, but wasn't perfect. It wasn't until the adjacent game that all his special attacks in Soul or Cross forms were designed to really match their sources.
- How exactly tin any device in the world of Boxing Network function if everything is clogged with viruses (which are somehow polite enough to only assault 1-3 at a fourth dimension)? I don't question their presence in the internet areas of each game, merely how can each disconnected device be total of them and still role? Also, fighting in said disconnected comps should reach a point where there are no more viruses in that item device, unless in that location's an unseen ground forces of WWW/Gospel/Nebula Mooks just offscreen who load each device up with fresh viruses when Lan's not looking...
- Gameplay and Story Segregation of course. It would be inconvenient for a location to run out of viruses preventing yous from getting anymore of their chips or testing out sure strategies. Alternatively its possible that the viruses were given the ability to re-create themselves and while Mega Man is busy fighting 1 grouping, the rest are multiplying providing a never catastrophe army. Equally for how the devices are still functioning, the viruses' mere presence doesn't impact the device and needs them to actively do something to the devices' control program.
- Number Man's level in the commencement game has y'all entering passcodes based on the number of things in school. One of the hints is the amount of doors in school. But the last door yous observe is locked and there are boosted doors backside it. Which means you're granted admission for entering the wrong amount of doors.
- How did Dr. Hikari fifty-fifty take Hub's Dna and turn it into Mega Man? How does putting something from the real world into internet piece of work?
- The offset game had a feature where Mega Man'south health would recover after every battle. In-universe, why would they get rid of this characteristic? Kind of a pace dorsum to remove that ability from the Navis or PETs.
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